1 ]] NAME: winniefred seah xinru

[[ 2 ]] BIRTHDAY: 20 feb1993:D

[[ 3 ]] HEIGHT: 157cm(taken i ealy '06 .guess ive grown a little bit taller?)

[[ 4 ]] SHOE SIZE: erm,i not sure lehh .but my feet is quite big i guess!

[[ 5 ]] EYE COLOR: black brown..?

[[ 6 ]] HAIR COLOR: black brown .

[[ 7 ]] BEEN KISSED: hehe ..NO

[[ 8 ]] DONE DRUGS: NO .

[[ 9 ]] BEEN ON STAGE: yes :D

:[[ 11 ]] BEEN DUMPED: NOO .

[[ 12 ]] GOTTEN INTO AN ACCIDENT: DONT HAVE .

[[ 13 ]] EATEN AN ENTIRE BOX OF SWEETS: yess.

[[ 14 ]] DYED YOUR HAIR: yes .the ends .but the colour not obvious ..

[[ 15 ]] CHOKED IN FRONT OF SOMEONE:yes .forgot wad it is about le ..

[[ 16 ]] WENT TO SCHOOL IN YOUR PJs: huh?!SIAO AH??

[[ 17 ]] GOTTEN DETENTION:nonono .!

[[ 18 ]] LOVED SOMEONE SO MUCH THAT MADE YOU CRY:yess..

[[ 19 ]] DO YOU LIKE SOMEONE RIGHT NOW: actually i also dunno lehh .

[[ 20 ]] DO THEY KNOW: dunno?

[[22 ]] COULD SEE YOURSELF MARRYING THAT SPECIAL PERSON: i dont think that far.

[[ 23 ]] COLD // HOT: COLD .the fan is blowing into my direction,directly ...

[[ 24 ]] BLACK // WHITE: both :D

[[ 26 ]] GIVE // RECEIVE: both :D[[ 27 ]] WOOL // COTTON: both :D

[[ 28 ]] ROSE // DAISY: can i choose lilies?

[[ 29 ]] PRIVATE // PUBLIC SCHOOL: public.

[[30 ]] PLAIN // CHOCOLATE MILK: chocolattie!

[[ 31 ]] HISTORY//SCIENCE: eeyer..

[[32 ]] MATH // ENGLISH: why no mother tongue?MT rocks ok .

[[ 33 ]] SPRING // FALL: i think both ba.

[[ 34 ]] ROCK // COUNTRY: pop?

[[ 35 ]] PEPSI // COKE: i dont like both..

[[ 36 ]] LOVE // LUST: love

[[ 37 ]] EAT // SLEEP: SLEEP!

[[ 38 ]] WHO IS MOST LIKELY TO BECOME PRESIDENT:aiya .NO president la .

[[39 ]] WHO IS THE MOST ANNOYING: dunno .everyone is annoying at times la .

[[ 40 ]] WHO DO YOU WISH TO SEE MORE OFTEN: JOANNE YINGSI

[[ 41 ]] WHO DO YOU E-MAIL THE MOST:i dont really email ppl .

[[ 44 ]] WHO ARE YOU JEALOUS OF:jealous ah?dunno leh.those who are erm,aiya .dunno la .

45 ]] WHO GOT THE BEST ROOM: hmms..i also nv go everybody hous,how do i noe?but i think is yingsi:D[[ 46 ]] WHOSE THE HORNIEST:jiarong?LOL!

[[47 ]] WHO DO YOU TRUST THE MOST:yingsi&joanne&shiling .

[[48 ]] WHO KNOWS YOU THE BEST:yokeching&xinting .

[[ 49 ]] YOUR BEST FRIEND: joanne yingsi shiling yokeching xinting .

[[ 50 ]] WHO DID YOU HAVE A SERIOUS TALK WITH: dont really have .!

[[ 51 ]] WHO GETS ALONG W/ YOUR PARENTS: me,DUH .[[52 ]] WHO YOU HUGGED THE MOST: my mum and joanne?LOL!

[[ 53 ]] WHO DO U MISS THE MOST: PRI SCH PEEPS!YOKECHING&XINTING!OHHHHHHH!!

[[ 54 ]] WHO FOUGHT W/ YOU THE MOST: dont know.

[[ 55 ]] WHO ARGUE W/ YOU THE MOST: dont really argue ...

[[ 56 ]] FAVORITE FRIENDS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX: hmms..Dunno leh .

[[ 57 ]] DO YOU LIKE TO GIVE HUGS: haha

[[ 58 ]] GIVE BACK RUBS: to my mum?

[[ 59 ]] TAKE WALKS IN THE PARK: yes!. lol.[[ 60 ]] WATCH TV: yeh! :D

[[ 61 ]] GO TO THE BEACH: YES!SO SHUANG!

[[ 62 ]] DO HOMEWORK: sometimes, yes. sometimes, no.

[[ 63 ]] PLAY IN THE SNOW: dint even get to try it ..

[[ 64 ]] WORK OUT: eeyerrr

[[ 65 ]] TALK ON THE PHONE: i RARELY talk on the phone la .mostly sms or MSN

[[ 66 ]] STAY UP ALL NIGHT TALKIN TO A FRIEND: no .nv try before...cant tahan de .will sleepy .

[[ 67 ]] GO ONLINE: DUH!

[[ 68 ]] BE KISSED: no ...

[[ 69 ]] DO WEIRD // FREAKY THANGS: yess!

[[ 70 ]] WHICH ONE OF YOUR FRIENDS MOST LIKELY TO BECOME A MODEL: dont know. haha. [[ 71 ]] HAVE KNOWN YOU THE LONGEST: my mum .LOL ..

[[72 ]] WHO DO YOU KNOW MOST ABOUT: not sure leh..

[[ 73 ]] BEEN TO A CONCERT: yehyehyeh.

[[ 74 ]] BEEN OUTTA STATE: ya . malaysia .haha .

[[ 75 ]] GONE SKINNY DIPPING: huh?

[[ 76 ]] RAN ROUND NAKED: nooooo ~

[[ 77 ]] BROKEN A BONE: no ..[[ 78 ]] CHEATED ON A TEST:haha!!no i guess.

[[ 79 ]] RAN A MARATHON: "ya my pri school had tons of 'thons' (walkathon, runathon, performathon, whateverthon la. lol"copied from yokeching .my opinion's same as hers! ,")

[[ 80 ]] MET A FAMOUS PERSON: yes!quite alot ..

[[ 81 ]] BOUGHT SOMETHING AND SOLD IT: yeh

[[ 82 ]] STOLE FROM SOMEONE OR SOMEWHERE: never..

[[ 83 ]] STALKED SOMEONE: nono.

[[ 84 ]] IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT W/ ANYONE, WHO WOULD IT BE: sui bian la..

[[ 85 ]] HAVE YOU EVER HAD AN ONLINE RELATIONSHIP: hmms.

[[ 86 ]] BAD HABITS: alot leh!

[[ 87 ]] MAKES YOU MAD: dont noe:D

[[ 88 ]] SCARIEST MOMENTS:o9o2o5. the RED .mfps students esp p6/05 noes!the sixfournine .ahh!dowan tok bout it la .

[[ 89 ]] WHERE ARE YOU: livingroom

[[ 90 ]] ARE YOU WEARIN ANY JEWELRY : nah

[[ 91 ]] LAST TIME YOU SHOWERED: less than 3 hours ago ..

[[92 ]] COLOR OF PANTS YOU'RE WEARING: be~lu ./.

[[ 93 ]] WHAT SONG ARE YOU LISTENING TO RIGHT NOW: not listening to any

[[ 94 ]] LAST THING YOU SAID: ah!going to ..

[[ 95 ]] COMPUTER DESK IS MADE OF: wood :D

[[ 96 ]] LAST THING YOU ATE: caramel sweet .

[[ 97 ]] WHAT YOU REALLY WANNA DO RIGHT NOW: sleep!but gotta study!shit .

[[ 98 ]] WHAT COLOR OF CRAYON WOULD YOU WANNA BE: i dowan to be crayon la!

[[99]] SABO ANY 5 PEOPLE: joanne yingsi PRECELLA!&2 other peeps dunno who .

I KENA SABO BY SOONYOKECHING! xpp

hellossssssssssss :DD
hualaus .
i keep on stomache laaaaa!
i think i like the Stamford Pri liddat lor .
wad gastric flu huh?i dunno la .
Wei Gan Mao .
Wei=gastric
Gan Mao=flu .
so,wei gan mao=gastric flu lor!
hmmanywae,yingsi ah!ask me prepare my yizu .aiyo .
then she also need wad .since you say i pass to you -_-
eh!i suddenly feel like typing like a twit!
please dont say i boliao .just want to try typing .but i think i will feel very pekcek .cos will keep on typing wrong ..

woahss .todAe horrx,goRt maths examm norrS .norT verY difficuLt larrsx.burT iie noE iie gorT one questioN wrong lerr norrhs .the trapezium derrh..iie neber dividee by twu.haiisx .tmrr ishh Science lorrh .i scaRed leiisx .i dunnO wadd tuuh studyy..mush go studyy lerrh!

eeeyer .i cannot tahan le..
uh .i shall stop here .bbyes!
:DDDDDD

hellos!:DD
had geog& DNT paper today .geog was ok .but the dnt..my last qn,i think i totally wrong!
shit la .
anywaes .keep on stomache today can .or rather these 2 days la .GROSS .
hehe .
tmr mathematics ahhhhhhhhh!!!
so scared .i scared my negative number,algebra equation..blahh
hais .
JIAYOU AH!
WINNIEFRED JIAYOU JIAYOU!
LOLS!
nowadays my post so short ,cos i just want to say wad i did today..and now i exam somemore .after exam,i will write MOREEEEEE!!! :DD

hohohohohoooooo .
these 2 days so happy ..cos
yesterday-buy bag,
today:found songs that i want long ago .nice can .
"the day we find love"
"at the beginnig ."but the "at the beginnig is video de .hais .but nvm la .can listen at the WMP .
my playlist i think got prob lor!so sad .
cannot listen i think .haiisssssssssssssss .

hellos! :DDD .
damn happy today .hohoho ..
morning woke up,watched Gong,then i go study leh .guai hor?then i jiu go sleep!my sis la .last nite late come back then sleep until 6pm evening .2++pm ah,i see she sleep then i also want sleep .xpp .the stupid haze also la .then i sleep until 6++then we go out eat .prepare le,we take taxi to suntec .TRAFFIC JAM!omytian .then its like $14.40 ..ok .ate roti prata .i ate one egg one .my parents and sis say i eat very little .each of them ate 1 bowl of laksa and at least one rotiprata...ok la .where got eat very little ...?nvm la.then went citylink mall,then the suntec there .bought NIKE shoulder bag!!!heeeeeeeees :DD
actually i want buy black+green lor!then cant find .then decided to buy either black+white or brown+pink .then blackwhite look very simple .so decided on brownpink..and it comes with a free shoe bag .erm,the problem is,it doesnt look like one ..LOL .ok..then took 133 home!long trip!yeahs .i love long trips in bus(when i can sit!)eh .at careefore*(dunno ow to spell la.)bought CARAMBAR Caramel L'Original .nice nice .got another type,is got Vanilla ,Chocolate ,Nougat de lor .(in one pack 3 flavours)but i only can see the caramel de .hais .
HOHOHOHO .
next paper:GEO AND DNT .
JIAYOUS!!!!!!!!! :DD

LOLS!i DO NOT NOE today was lantern festival until my mum tells me!
haha .
me:when is lantern festival ah?
mummy:today la!
me:HUH?!really ah?i dont noe!
lols .prec asked me to play candles with her la .then when i ask her at where,she didnt reply .
anywae,i rmbered some yrs ago when i go my flat downstairs playground,got one grp of guys,they play with candles ma .guess wad they brought along with them .

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a can of HOTDOGS!

wth?!they placed the can of hotdogs over the little fire and wait for it to be cooked .aiyo .might as well bbq it la!

haha .was quite young then .

arrghhhhhhh .im so happy now .because??

tmr is sat and the day after is sun .

WHEEEEEE!:DD

i want to sleep .the bed is the best place ever on weekends!

hellos!
quite long never blog le huh?
hehe .
today had LITERATURE&HISTORY EOY .
wth .can fail la .i think i will fail this 2 subjects!
hmms..wrote a chinese compo .ms lu say those selected ones will be compiled into a bk which will be sold (or isit free ah?)next yr .
heheheheheeeeeeeeeeeeeee .wrote bout my cousin...the accident,at hospital,funeral,at crematorium,at columbarium etc .
okokok .
WEEKENDS ARE HERE!WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! :D
enjoy the weekends,everybodae!LOLS!

heeeeeeeeeeeeee .
i pass my maths class test!17/20.. :D
and i improved by TEN marks!
last paper i only got 7/20..LOL .
hooooo .anywaes .i actually want send photo in here de .but im not sure whether to anot ..cos still ust resize,etc .eeeee.aiya .ok la..i post .wait first..eh .wat i want to say ah?just now i actually want say something de lor.then i forget le.. o.Oaiya .nvm la!UPLOADING THE PICS!
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hmms .ive been dreaming these few days la..haha .and i sleep alot,or rather want to sleep..
wts .photobucket keesiao lo ."Page Cannot Be Displayed "i upload le,but havent resize . >.<
ok la.tmr then i upload ok :)
hohoh .i simply love "AiCuo"&"Finally"....

hohoho .im here again!and using my sis de LT again lor..
hmms.
anywaes..currently watching Gong (palace)...
but am not very focused la.cos using comp..guess i will have to re-watch it la.
quite nice la the show.haha.
aiyo.very boring leh.very sian..ohya..my sis today go work lor :D
anywae .the Gong huh,got that TaiHou very funny lor.laugh until very funny one. o.O

hellos!
hmms..i now using my sister laptop leh.
outside the desktop comp huh,DAMN slow can..
dunno why la.slower than before.
anywae,today common test..uh.can die.
my history ha..SIAO.i think i only can get 2 marks lor. out of erm.._8dunno la.i think is 28 la.
then after ct,mslu like look so serious "after sch come my homerm!got a very important and urgent thing i need to say!"LOL.then after sch we go lor.then the curtains was blocking our view .but there are still "holes"that allowed to peep in !saw ms lu walking around,placing biscuits and swits on our tables!
then we went in la.
thats our childrens' day present!kinda touched can .although we are "not"children anymore,mslu still give us present,and wish us happy childrens' day!and there was anothr present too,a SPONGEBOB SQUAREPANTS poker card,wad i meant by "a" is,just ONE card alone!she says that SPONGEBOB is 101's mascot.
HAHAH.and i got a J!with a pic of spongebob on it!HEE.
oh!I LOVE YOU MS LU!:D
then me and joanne went to band room .to report tix sales la.
then arond 3++,i go band rm outside ,try to play Kiss Goodbye on the piano .Joanne teach me a little bit!and i was so easily dstracted can .only untl i was alone outside then i can concentrate!
by the time we are leaving,4++,i can play the whole song,but smoothly(and memorised de,)is the opening music.the start of the song,to before wangleehom starts to sing:)
wow.i actually dunno how to play piano de lor.then i try to play.and now i can pla e first part of the song!WHEE.
the song is soooo nice.i want to learn the whole song!got to print out the whole 4 pages of score,when i only have the first page!=xbut the desktop comp's printer no ink le lor.so i guess i'll have to use this laptop's printer!
okok .i shall end here le la.i go print now... :))
ohya.my mum and sis is in malaysia,shopping until they drop!LOLS:D

hello.
tmr got common test lor.
and i havent study yet =x
i duno wad chapt to study!gues its 5+6..
anywae.today went amk central tgt wif joanne,yingsi,shiling,jiarong and yonghui.
haha.i spent one of the voucher le.so left another 5 bucks only.
then we walked around there,made a fool out of ourselves..and go home lor.btw!
while we were walking to bustop to go amk central and whille we were there,yingsi joanne and shiling keep on molesting me lor!walau.make me shout here shout there.they hit my butt la!LOLS.use hand somemore.later their hand kena infection then they noe..(OK .joking..)
kip on bully me.haiyoyo.
ok la .i gtg study le leh.bbyes :D

ehs!
today i after school jiu go home le lor.
but got stay in canteen until 2++..me and joanne pei yingsi lor.
hehee.erms,in the canteen hor,got 2 ppl want fight liddat la.then gang hao m phua makaning.haha.then go talk..then we go out of the sch..wilson come find ys..yingsi buy chickenn for him lor.then ask him eat but he say later."eat!now,now,now!"haha..so wilson just eat lor.
they both sweet couple la.haha:D
then reached home..
jie cook fried rice lor.i eat a little bit nia.not cos not nice ok..i dont feel like eating..then we go plan for our genting trip,wad to do,wad to bring etc lor.we so excited.50 days more lor.then we stay at the kitchen,with my mummy also..cos my jie cooking ma.later she not there my jie go burn down ther house how..
haha.anywae..today spent 2 hours in the relief room!english..cos weve got 2 period of english..

ok .
since you say you are angry becos i blogged the story out,then i shall say sorry to end the matter.
you want to accept or not,up to you,if yes,then good lor,if not,so be it.
"SORRY,"
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anywaes!today went ice kimo eat ice cream lor.hees .bought 2 scoops of cookies & cream..
omygod .so nice can..then we went to thomson plaza la..yingsi bought her puff up paint le!hee.the tee!so nice lor.me and joanne do le,only left ys and sl havent.haha.
ok..i end here le.bbyes:DDD
TO ALL CONCERED FRENS,im ok le.thank you :)

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today toked quite alot of things lor.
im not angry or wadever the names alva called me;
but im dissapointed about her change in character..
DISSAPOINTED?YES .
SAD?YES .
ANGRY?YES .
thats all ive got to say bout her la.
she thought she is the only one who is sad and things like that?
she says she feel like crying cos of the besties thingy,i tell you,i feel like too cos of this whole matter .
WE ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS,GIRL.WE ALL HAVE FEELINGS.
what i can say is,im truely affected by the whole incident.everybody says it is a must go through stage in life.but why?
in sch,i cant really express my feelings out.if i really do,i will be feeding my face with smelly toufu you noe?!if i did that,im sure things will not be going smoothly in sch,in class...

WTH .now is like im the only one that alva dont like .wadever la.i dont really care ,cause since she now dont treat me as a fren,i can just let this matter rest la.
but it is like,i NEVER add any thing that has NOT happened inside the story lor.the things ive wrote is purely the things that we've said and thought.
ZERO extra things are added in the story,isnt it?then liddat,jamie go say wad i add lots of extra things??!say i bian the story until very wad?!wth .now i is like feel like asking alva to open her eyes BIG and read the story again lor.she dare to say i got add extra things????! list out la!if you can list out,i will gladly say sorry you noe?!
@#$%^&*()_)(*&amp;^%$#$%^&*(!!!
is like very UNFAIR to me lor.

hellos hellos!
ytd we had lots of fun ya?
i shall upload the video then put the URL here!hees .
hahahaha .uploading the me and joanne de.
KUAI YI DIAN ,KUAI YI DIAN!
hmms...eeeeeeeeeeeyerrr .
so long one . o.O
OK!done le!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBeurf7RSVY
now,the DOGGIE YO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2gE_aoPQs8
muahahahahahahahahahaha .

lalalalala .
hello .
hmms .dunno wad to blog lehh .i just came back lei .
haha.
just now went ice kimo lei .
but..
eeeeeeeeeeeyer ,dont have cookies and creame today o.O
so i bought chocolate and cookies&mango .:))
i go wif joanne&shiling .too bad yingsi nv come la .mayb tmr going lor.
but frankly speakng,i dont really feel like going .haha.
cos its like,we tues go,today go,tmr still go,very qiguai .later 3 of us becum pig ah .eat too much icecream le lor.
anywaes ,tmr having english paper!OMYTIAN...!
hahahahaha .LOLS

ohmy tian and di and shen ah!
i havent even manage to sell on of the band tickets!
arrgh .
PLEASE LAAAAAAAAAAAA .
buy frm me la .
$10!!!
haiis .
why everybody never reply may msg de?only when i ask them to go concert lor.

hellos .
photos to post today!:D
shadows!of shiling,me and joanne .

oh .i didnt noe i can draw shinchan free hand this well:)
all cartoons are drawn by joanne,except for the shinchan!

Look wad ive found in the toilet..
"MS GAN IS A HAIRY MONSTER"HAHAHA

my feet and joanne's feet .mine says"hello molester"and hers says "hello fish"

my design on a shirt!hehees .

my jie and me:)

hees .today went to visit xuelijie .its going to be one yr since she left us..
this oct29 .its coming soon,real soon ...miss her lots .
ok,we stayed at the columbarium for 1 hour++ or so!hahas .anywaes,we(my parents and jie)went there by taxi .the uncle drive,a longer route .woah .more ex lor o.O
after we left the columbarium,we went to bugis ..yupps .jie and me make badge!she paid for me!:)
awwww..how i love my dear jie...
heeeeeeeeeeeees .
i hanged it on my phone la .
want see ma?i cant take a pic .i too lazy to take down then take pic le .nx time ok .

update:ehs.i thnk this story is like created some trouble .but im not going to take that down,becos this is a STORY.i mean NO offence to anybody in this story,and i can swear and promise that i DID NOT add anything that has not happened in the story itself..
ok .im going to blog out a story ya .

There was once 6 good friends,named Jamie,June,Alva,Yvonne,Pearly,wendy .although the 6 are "splited into 2s,they are alwaes in a grp,walking together .Jamie+Yvone;June+Alva;Wendy+Pearly :)
Until one day..
Eileen "popped" out and asked to join the grp of 6,making it 7 .they thought it was ok,nothing bad and agreed .
Eileen sticked to June,making alva feel pangsehhed .so,she joined jamie and yvonne .
and slowly,pearly joined jamie,yvonne and alva .and so,wendy joined june and eileen .But 7 of them are always in a grp,but slowly,their distance became further .
until one day,alva quarreled with wendy,june and esther over a project .Jamie speaked for alva .
and hence,the 7 quarreled and split into 4:3 (jamie,yvonne,pearly and alva;june,wendy&eileeN)
days went by,and slowly,yvone begin to join june's grp of 3 .she was being pangsehhed by the grp .june's grp ,took her in,and was happy for it .yvonne was a nice girl .slowly,alva went to june's grp,too!so,the other grp,only left jamie and pearly .so,now is it 5:2
"Lets talk,"said jamie .and the grp of 5 said ok .(guess she's going to talk to bring the frenship tgt again .)
they met at the sch cafe,the 5 waited for jamie .jamie was happily talking to his boyfren..
"eh,want to talk anot de?"
and jamie went"eh,tmr la"
and the next day,they still didnt talk!
alva said"jamie hor,now then want tok "
"yalor,last time 3:4 she dowan .now she there got only 2,we've got 5 then she want tok .wth is that??!"
then..one day,yvonne,june and wendy went to alva house to do a project .they talked,and decided to "kick"eileen out .just have 4,start afresh .they were all very happy .
"eh,mayb we can give jamie a chance lor.she now like turn good liao."alva said .
"wad?she wont change de lor .maybe now "change " le,then when we join back,she will go to her old self again lor."
then the next day,they avoided eileen .
eileen knew wad they mean and join the other grp in the class .
slowly,alva began to go with jamie's grp .
"backstaber;2 headed snake ."the impression she left on june,yvonne and wendy .
(as one girl,sally tells yvone,wendy,june that alva has been tellin jamie all the things that yvone,wendy,june tells alva)
the other 3,jamie,pearly and alva..
and one day,elizabeth joined their grp .
and jamie ,love alva lots,and pangsehhed pearly .elizabeth did not go to walk with pearly,but just went with jamie and alva.so in their grp,its like..3:1??
june,yvonne and wendy feel that pearly is so kelian .
they did think of asking pearly to join them,but in the end,they didnt
Alva was such a cute and innocent girl in everyone eyes .but now,only the 2 words"backstabber" and "2 headed snake"can be seen to june,yvonne and wendy's eyes .but not jamie .jamie,treats her like a baobeii.
ok..thats the story .yupps .
its a trye story?i dont know .mayb yes,mayb not .up to you to think la .but this is just a story i wrote out .hmms...so,do you all think there is Forever friends anot?
maybe it only occurs 0.0000000000000000000001% of the friendships we have on earth .hmm,maybe not only earth .who noes if there is really some funny aliens staying on the other planets?